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In the chat after his Berkeley lecture ("The State of American Media") this week, Dan Rather talked to ZDNet journalist Steve Gillmor, who came with indie journalist (and ex-Mercury-News columnist) brother Dan Gillmor and Steve's look-alike friend, RSS czar Dave Winer. To save you from caption confusion, here's the breakdown:

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Dan Rather: No longer American media. The warm voice and stern face of CBS News for over 20 years until citizen muckrakers brought him down.


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Dan Gillmor: In the long tail of American media. Started citizen-journalism site Bayosphere, now part of East Coast operation Backfence. Calls Steve his older, wiser brother.


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Steve Gillmor: Part of American media. Blogs for ZDNet. Calls Dan his little, smarter brother.


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Dave Winer: The man behind the New American Media curtain. Invented a major form of RSS. One of the podcasting podfathers (it takes a village).


There! Now you won't be confused — unless you start reading their work.

Photos: donlbe and Dan Farber [Flickr]