Charles Koch, a man whose pockets are spilling with oil and whose brain is brimming with political schemes, may be getting soft in his old age.

The petrochemical billionaire and political puppet-master told ABC’s This Week that he felt that Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton would be a better president that the Republican choices. When asked whether he’s outright support Clinton, Koch responded:

“We would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way.”

Koch also espoused some particularly Democratic views, attacking low taxes for the rich, opposing the Afghanistan war, and saying that he thought Bill Clinton was a better president than George W. Bush. Koch also denied that he’d spent any money on the current presidential race, though, so we can take all this with an enormous grain of salt.